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Truth. Honestly, I've been waiting a month to find someone that can even LOOK at my drawings and make me an adapter plate. Everyone I speak with is too busy or just has no desire to hear me out. KEP in CA finally is someone I found that may be able to help out, we shall see. I've been looking at the T5 gearboxes too since some of them appear to be able to mount up to the motor, but they are still $$$$. I like their stub shaft axle setup a little better though. At least there will be some options still around.

I'm hoping to have this thing mounted and running in the next month, It'll likely be January though.

I'm right up the road from you, Justin, I live in Salem. I'll have to swing by the shop if I can ever get things sorted out on my end.

-Ryan

Any chance any of the modern automatics or DSG boxes working in the T4 with the VR6?

Interior! / Re: Bought a new steering wheel on eBay.de

« on: December 04, 2016, 05:30:48 am »

Quote from: filmshoot on December 03, 2016, 02:03:28 pm

What's the difference between the color wax and flannel?

Interior! / Re: Bought a new steering wheel on eBay.de

« on: December 03, 2016, 09:47:59 am »

Quote from: filmshoot on November 21, 2016, 06:37:12 am

Anymore updates?

Inscribed with just two thumbs...

Sorry!! Completely forgot about this thread. I'm normally only with the van a couple weeks a year.

So, the leather wheel fit perfectly, no issues with airbag, horn, or ESP. I was in the process of putting the van together after doing the HVAC fix. Normally its more assembled than that.

VR6 Engine tech / Re: PSA: Check your chains!

« on: August 02, 2016, 04:12:11 am »

Van was picked up yesterday, new motor is much quieter than the old one. However the transmission is holding the gears much longer than before, not sure why. Would a TCM reset fix matters?

Want to buy something? / Re: The Quest for a Eurovan Key Fob Transmitter

« on: July 30, 2016, 07:58:05 am »

Read the following:
1. http://www.gowesty.com/tech-article-details.php?id=84
2. http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5931307-Eurovan-2002-lost-my-only-key-don-t-have-SKC-(pin)-code

When the van was new, 3 keys were supplied. 2 switchblade keys, and an emergency key (7D0837216 01C) with the transponder built in. Although its funny, when the sales guy was showing us the car in 2001, he was telling us the emergency key was for the lockable gas cap.

I'm not sure about the transponder type, I think its ID48 but I know that the remote shares the same 315MHz frequency as the Golf/Jetta models. As such, you should have no problem finding remotes - except that the Golf/Jetta have remotes that have panic and trunk release buttons.

Emergency key:

I'd get the emergency key above from the dealer, and just have them program it.

For the remotes, I'd look into buying them here or someplace similar: http://www.woodsboroautosales.com/eurovan.html
I'd also request that they use a new 2 button keyfob shell (bunch of them on eBay from China) with an OEM logo (3B083789109Z; non-OEM looks scratches off very quickly). This will get you VERY close to the OEM feel. Only thing that'll be different is that the OEM key remote portion's key-out is triangular, and the new one will be a rectangular opening. This bothers me quite a bit, but I don't know where to get a key that matches perfectly.

Have them programmed at the dealer, or with VCDS/Vagtacho yourself (not completely sure how to do it myself), or find someone else to do it - there's a couple on VWVortex.

Exterior / Re: T4/Eurovans with custom paint!

« on: July 22, 2016, 03:13:30 pm »

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Volkswagen-EuroVan-MV-Standard-Passenger-Van-3-Door-/391460259476?forcerrptr=true&hash=item5b24d98694:g:gAcAAOSwboVXO9So&item=391460259476

Easily my favorite Eurovan.

The Xenon conversion could probably have been better, but otherwise, I think its on point.

EDIT: The exterior is stock color, oops. The leather interior impressed me.

VR6 Engine tech / Re: PSA: Check your chains!

« on: July 18, 2016, 05:51:28 pm »

All the shops near the van seem to be unwilling to install either the R32 engine (my preference), or the 3.2 block and 2.8 head. So I'm going with the dealer's option - I'm finding the 2.8L AXK myself and then having them install it.

Really disappointed that the R32 install didn't go through.

EDIT: Remanufactured VR6 has been ordered. Total cost installed will be about $7500. Or about $2000 more than a used working GLS. Why go with the new motor? Because the used motors were about $3000 shipped, plus $1300 for the timing chain job, then roughly $2000 for the install. I'd gladly pay $1200 extra for a new motor. Plus, 1y/12k warranties for the used motors were $800 - rendering the cost differential at only $400.

VR6 Engine tech / Re: PSA: Check your chains!

« on: July 13, 2016, 12:59:04 am »

Mark: I don't know what techniques where used to determine the state of the head, all I know is what the service adviser told me. I'll try to pry out more information.

robinson: We are past the point of it making sense to make repairs - we've made upgrades and repairs not because it makes any semblance of financial sense - but merely because we like the van. Perhaps a more pragmatic approach will be taken, not completely sure yet. FWIW, ours is a GLS, so functionally its the same a Sienna or Odyssey for most people.

I asked a similar question a few months back before I knew an engine replacement would be necessary and Cole had some great insight:

Quote from: Cole on April 16, 2016, 07:43:26 am

I put a ton of research into this when I swapped my first every Eurovan 24V VR6 out.

The conclusion I came to was that you could use the 3.2L block with the 2.8L 24V head from the Eurovan using custom head studs (available). This would give you the ability to use all the stock intake components.

You would want to scale the size of the injectors up slightly for the added displacement. The computer will take care of the rest. (it will have no idea there is an extra 400cc of displacement).

The big issue I found at the time was simply the cost of the Touareg and Cayenne Engines. People seem to think they are made of unobtainium even though they are the least desirable in those platforms.

I found the engine below,

http://www.ebay.com/itm/04-05-PORSCHE-CAYENNE-ENGINE-3-2L-VIN-A-5TH-DIGIT-135193-/142051816576?fits=Make%3APorsche&hash=item2112f2b480:g:PPQAAOSw7s5Xg-rG&vxp=mtr

Now I just need to find the custom head studs (whatever those are!) and find out the appropriate injector size (another unknown!!).

Plus I'd need to find someone willing to do this work - most people don't want to touch custom builds. Plus that 5 year warranty would be gone. But the engine would be a touch newer and I wonder if it'd be of a better build than the AXK.

EDIT: Apparently the 5 year warranty doesn't apply to the motor that they found. Apparently this has neither parts nor labor warranty. Yikes.
EDIT2: Oops, buying the porsche engine wouldn't work since my head is bad, and that's the part i'd need to mate with the cayenne motor. Found a complete AXK motor in Oregon for $2800 w/1yr parts and labor warranty.
EDIT3: If I have the dealer swap in a new engine without chains its about $5k, with chains its about $6k. There's a VW dealer - Autobarn Motorsports in Evanston, IL that put in an R32 engine into the van. Here's a link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Volkswagen-EuroVan-MV-Standard-Passenger-Van-3-Door-/391460259476?forcerrptr=true&hash=item5b24d98694:g:gAcAAOSwboVXO9So&item=391460259476

I'm going to try to contact them tomorrow to see if they can either do the same for us or if they can help advise my local dealer on how to do the same. I have no idea what they'll ask, but it seems kind of a waste to spend $6k on a VR6 2.8L with 120K+ mi. If anyone knows of a shop around Central Ohio that can help me tackle this - let me know!

VR6 Engine tech / Re: PSA: Check your chains!

« on: July 12, 2016, 05:06:44 pm »

itsmoto: Good to know that the BDF will work. I'm considering purchasing a crashed Golf GTi with the BDF engine. Its a shame the Audi (AMU, APX, BAM, BEA) 1.8T wouldn't fit and work with the automatic 4 speed in the van. 222hp turbocharged four seems like a better fit than the VR6. According to the dealer the head is trashed, cylinder 1 doesn't hold any compression. I didn't get a chance to take a picture of the lights in operation at night, but they are quite bright and the high beams with the bi-xenons and LED lights on are extremely bright. Next time I'm near the van I'll get some night shots. I'm thrilled that the van finally had good lights and fully working HVAC.

I'm thousands of miles away from the van and won't be back for months, plus an engine swap way out of my skill level. I'd need someone else to help me.

$6k is for a salvage engine, complete chain job, misc parts, labor, and 5 year warranty on parts and labor - the engine is about $2800 of that $6000 figure.

Honestly, thats the lowest quote I received. Everyone else seems to be quoting anywhere from $8k-12k for more or less the same job - with a salvage engine!

I have no idea where to get a better price on this job.

If only this engine :http://www.ebay.com/itm/ENGINE-LONG-BLOCK-2004-VW-R32-3-2L-BJS-CODE-137000-MILES-TESTED-MK4-VR6-/131834473983 would drop in seamlessly. Would the transmission even take it?

VR6 Engine tech / PSA: Check your chains!

« on: July 11, 2016, 03:53:38 pm »

While my father was going to work, the van lost all power - steering, brakes, engine, everything. Luckily he was only doing about 20-25 MPH at the time and managed to pull it into a grassy area safely.

Van was towed to the local VW dealership - where we were informed that the engine is toast. Okay, more specifically the timing chain guide snapped, timing chain stretched, and poof - bent valves and no compression on one of the cylinders.

Feels like a huge punch to the gut, not only because everyone in my family is obsessed with the car, but because I spent a long time adding the bi-xenon headlights, OEM double-din re-bar and re-doing the HVAC foam (all done last May). I was surprised that the engine failed in this manner since even the VW mechanic who looked at the car just a few weeks ago was surprised to hear of the news. I remember being advised to do that chains at some point but was told it didn't need to be done immediately. No rattling noises were detected by him. Oh well, retrospectively the timing chain service would have been done as well as the VCG and plugs.

EDIT: Engine swap options?
1. Do the AXK engine again? ($6000 w/new chains, with 5 yr warranty via dealer)
2. BDF engine?
3. Possible to put in a 1.8T BEA?

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