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Thanks!

I looked up the amperage of the Norcold; it pulls 11.5-15 amps (page 2):
http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/817849/14776484/1319418046177/3163service_manual.pdf?token=aNr7X8d%2FTWxtMXcVgHDXs06tdVU%3D

I guess the question is if the fridge is running, and it trips on the charger, how much power is it putting out vs what the fridge is pulling?  At some point I'll change the fridge, so it won't matter.  Until then, I guess the answer is to carry some distilled water and check the battery periodically to make sure there is no boil off of the fluid.

BTW: i have Lead Acid batteries - just bought two Interstate 6V golf cart batteries from Costco the other day.  Will be installing them over the next two weeks.

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Winnebago "Full Campers" / Re: Interior Mods, Gadgets, or Additions
« on: July 31, 2015, 03:15:08 am »
I like the idea of more storage in the door! More storage is always good  :)

Also the porta potty would be a real hit with my GF!  More projects... :-\ 

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42pvan...thanks, a good explanation.  Question: if the norcold fridge is on (drawing 10 amps as you said), and the smart charger then thinks the battery is low and tries to charge it, is that a bad thing?  Isn't it just helping to run the fridge, or will it put out too much power and overcharge the battery as well?

Bob...I don't have trouble with the link to xochi.com.  Here it is:
http://xochi.com/evc/battery-charger/
http://xochi.com/evc/ works as well, but Xochi.com does not have any links to the evc section.  The owner has probably changed his website and deleted the links.

albertr...I look forward to checking out the info on the solar as well as charger!

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Share your adventures! / Re: Advantures
« on: July 28, 2015, 07:24:50 pm »
Thanks Albertr...too late, they're being replaced.  I'll call the mechanic and have him check them anyway.  He said the one fan was shorted out from frayed wires - I think he's honest, but it doesn't mean he isn't wrong  :-\

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Bob, thanks for the clarification, I didn't quite get it.  Looked it up: Converter=AC->DC, Inverter=DC->AC.  So the stock magnatek unit is a dumb primitive converter (which may no longer work), and the upgrades give you a smart better filtered converter.  To get 110v during you drive you have to add an additional inverter.  Got it.  For now the converter upgrade is what I am going to do.  The ProMariner is a smart power converter like David's PDI.

Alvetr, I looked up the magnum MMS-1012 and it looks cool and is both an inverter and converter.  But at 5X the cost of the other chargers it's out of my price range.  Love to see a write-up on it tho!

Anyone know anything about the ProMariner?

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Inverter question.  David used the "Progressive Dynamics Intelli-Power model PD 9245C".  I found another site (http://xochi.com/evc/battery-charger/) with some nice EVC builds (http://xochi.com/evc/) that shows basically the same installation, but uses a different inverter: the "ProMariner ProSport Gen 3 Dual battery Charger", I assume model #43020.  (http://promariner.com/products/waterproof-on-board-marine-battery-chargers/prosport-series/)

Any thoughts as to which of the two would work best?  The ProSport looks easier to install, both have similar intelligent charging and close prices.  The Intelli-Power is 45 amp while the promariner is 20 amp but will charge the starter battery as well (though I'd have to run a long cable...)

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Thanks Bob!  Cutoff switch is a no brainer and many cheap options.  But I do like the way David did it...easy access. 

The EVC's in the shop still, so I can't look at it now, but I'm referring to the double plug below the stove - a standard 110V household plug.  I believe that the book said that that ran on shore power only.  There is a 12V plug (like a cigarette lighter) near it, and it's good to know that runs off the house battery.  For my last trip, I plugged in an inverter and ran it off the 12V plug, but it would be nice to be able to plug in some 110V items (computers, etc) without the hassle of an inverter.

I just purchased two 6V golf cart batteries, and I'm shopping inverters.  I'll install it in after I get back from my trip this coming weekend.

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Share your adventures! / Re: Advantures
« on: July 27, 2015, 11:24:10 pm »
'Millie' is a 95 EVC automatic transmission.  And thanks, I also hope the gremlins are out  ::)

Update on the fans; turns out there is no aftermarket fan (correct me if I'm wrong).  My mechanic got some that were supposed to work but they are smaller blades and higher housing and rub against the alternator.  A fan from the dealership costs over $800 each (there are two).  My mechanic found a guy to rebuild them for $340, so we are going that route.  Turns out the fan has some wires in it that had come loose/frayed? and had shorted out.  Hopefully she'll be back from the shop tomorrow.

I also picked up a couple of 6V golf cart batteries from Costco.  When I get back I'll get a new inverter and upgrade my power storage system!  Looks like an easy build.

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Share your adventures! / Re: Advantures
« on: July 24, 2015, 05:40:04 am »
When I get back from my trip next week I'll look into the converter output and the deep cycle battery.  Probably get a couple of 6V golf cart batteries...that seems the best option.  I think that give about 200 amp hours.  I'll also be looking into a different fridge option, but that project will wait a bit...I'm hitting my cash limit on the van for the moment and fridges cost around $1000.

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Share your adventures! / Advantures
« on: July 23, 2015, 03:37:49 pm »
Advanture to Gold Country in Northern California

Since this section is not just about pictures but adventures as well, I thought I might chronicle the first trip of my EVC.  I purchased it in early June, with a trip planned about a week later.  Two previous owners called her 'Millie' and it seemed to fit, so that's what we call her.

-A Slow Start-
In preparation, I brought it to a mechanic who had worked on my Vanagon in the past to get all the fluids replaced, check the brakes (the pedal seemed to depress too far) and change the timing belt.  One thing led to another and I didn't get it back until much $$$ and 3 days before the trip; new brakes, timing belt (was so old it was almost coming off the pulleys and had worn holes through the cover).  I picked it up, stopped at the tire place and got a new spare.

Finally I was ready to load the van, and went to put the tools under the bench seat….no storage??!?!  Under the seat was a solid black box.  After further investigation I noticed that the back of the box had two RCA connectors…a PO had taken out the storage and put in a base woofer speaker facing down.  I pulled to the seat, ripped out the speaker and built a storage box to replace it.  Then transferred the stuff from my Vanagon, plugged in the car and cooled down the fridge, packed up the family (son, GF and her daughter) and the next day we were off!

-The Heats On-
It was around 10 am on a sunny Los Angeles morning when we finally got out.  The weather was already getting pretty warm we headed north on the I5 up into the mountains toward the Tejon Pass and the San Joaquin Valley beyond.  Part of the trip up to the pass is a long 5% grade.  We were about half way up when I noticed the temperature light flashing and the gauge almost at the top   :o.  I slowed down, shifted into third and the temperature dropped incrementally, but enough for the temp light to stop flashing.  At 25-30 mph I was able to keep the temp barely in control.  Once we crested the grade the temp dropped, so though nervous, we bullied on.

As we headed north up the Central Valley, we found the AC wasn't keeping up.  Neither was the fridge.  I had bought a remote thermometer and we watched the temperature in the fridge slowly increase a degree at a time. 

In Fresno we stopped at a delightful Thai Restaurant.  Who knew?  My GF, Jill is a wonder at finding the best food places; the combination of her food karma and yelp makes for some good eaten'!  (see pic below)

Well, it was hot in the central valley, and it turns out the AC was not really blowing cold so we sweated the trip up to Jamestown.  I pulled into the nearest Walmart the next day and bought one of those canned recharge kits.  It worked, at least good enough for the rest of the trip.

-Dry Camping-
Onward and forward…We spent that night at the Jamestown Hotel then the next night at Tuttletown Recreation Area campground.  (pic below)  The campground is on the shores of New Melones Lake, a reservoir.  If you look at the pic below, you'll see that we were hardly on the edge of the lake.  In fact, it's down 250 ft, you can see it in the background, but it should have been about 20-50 feet from the campsite if full.  It really drove home the intensity of the drought we are having here in california. 

The battery died, and thus so did the fridge.  Not even enough power to start the propane, which kept blowing out from the wind.  We ate out most of the trip from there on.

-Disaster Strikes!-
After a few nights of camping, spelunking in a local cavern, and gold panning, we spent another night at the Jamestown hotel.  We got up in the morning to take a walk and I looked at 'Millie' and the rear tire was flat, plastic was laying all over the street, the side appeared to be dented and scuffed!  >:(  Some A*!#hole had hit the car.  (pic below) After looking closer and asking around I found that early in the morning some guy in a gold sedan had pulled out, hit my car and taken off.  It wasn't as bad as it looked, the plastic was the hubcap that was shattered, the scuff just a scuff, but he had hit the rear wheel and bent it thus the flat.  There was a scrape/dent near the front door, probably his rear view mirror.  I was so pissed that I just climbed under the car and changed the tire myself…didn't even think to call AAA.  It did get some of the adrenaline out.

-Off to Yosemite, no Stops-
So I checked that the rear axle wasn't bent, but all seemed to be in order.  We headed to Yosemite.  Nervous about the overheating I took it slow up the hills.  Felt like I was in my old split window or the Vanagon. If I kept it in third and under 3000 rpm all was well, it warmed up but stayed in the range.  That was about 30 mph or so.

Coming down into the valley I kept it in third, babying the brakes a bit, but obviously not enough.  They started squeaking when I braked.  Then the traffic stopped for photographers at a waterfall and I put on the brakes hard… :o….nothing…felt like the brakes had turned to glass.  The car did slowly stop, and since I kept plenty of space it stopped in time.  I smelled burning brakes, and the pedal now went down almost to the floor.  The traffic started and I did too, very gingerly.  The brakes started working and I started using 2nd for the downhill stretches, which I did for the rest of the trip. 

We just spent the day in Yosemite, ate lunch at the Awani Hotel, looked at some of the sites and ran away in terror at the numbers of people that crowded that beautiful valley.  Not at all like it was when I was 17, though it was crowded then too.

-Smooth Sailing Home-
Heading home all went well.  The AC now worked and I had mastered overheating prevention so going up the grapevine was not a problem.

-Wrap-up-
We actually had a good time amidst all the problems.  It turns out that one of the fans was not working which probably accounts of the overheating.  On the brakes, there is a controller that keeps the rear adjusted to the front.  It turns out a PO had messed with it and it was out of whack.  Thus I wasn't getting proper braking power on either the front of rear brakes.  Don't know about the charging, but it seems the system is charging properly.  I'll have to check the converter and the deep cycle battery is probably old.  It has not cutoff switch.

Overall, it was quite the advanturous trip. 

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My EVC is still in the shop, but it wasn't able to keep the deep cycle battery charged while running the fridge on the last trip up to gold country….about 8 hours of driving…and for the rest of the trip is was low.  Just got the car so it may just be an old battery.  I'll be checking whether the deep cycle battery is good, or just replace it with a couple of golf cart batteries and check/change out the converter.  I'm the same way as Bob with electrical…but basic stuff is doable.

-Need to add a battery cutoff switch (but that's just a splice). 

-Also, I'd like to make one or both of the outlets on the plug in front of the stove run off the battery so the kids can plug in chargers, etc. for their devices.  Depends on where the electrical is wired and how hard it is.  I could just add another plug somewhere.

-I've got a nice solar panel my neighbor (who installs solar) gave me. A Siemans SP75 75watt panel.  I'm considering mounting on the roof but right now I've got many other projects in the works.  I also know I need some kind of controller to modify the output voltage, don't know what I need for that, but I haven't started researching yet. My neighbor will tell me what I need as well when it gets time. 

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Inline 5cyl Petrol engine tech / Re: New EVC - what to service
« on: July 23, 2015, 12:54:47 pm »
Turns out one of my radiator fans was not working.  We'll have to see if that takes care of the overheating, but it certainly might.  Will let you guys know after I take it on the road later next week, as I'll be going over the grapevine again. 

For those who don't know of it, if you head out of L.A. up the I5, there's a pass over the mountain into the San Joaquin Valley.  It's a 5% 5 mile grade up to Tejon pass, then a 6% straight downhill grade into the valley.  At the bottom of the pass is a community called Grapevine (invisible from the highway).  In the old days it was a two lane highway and infamous for runaway trucks and accidents. 

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Inline 5cyl Petrol engine tech / Re: New EVC - what to service
« on: July 14, 2015, 10:44:29 pm »
Thanks all, back from my trip a couple of weeks ago.  Definitely have some stories, but I'll relate that in the "Share your Adventures" section.  The two points germane to this thread was lousy gas mileage and overheating. 

Coming out of Los Angeles and going up the back side of the grapevine (the not the steep side) I suddenly saw that the temp light was flashing and needle was almost at the top of the gauge…I slowed down to 25 or so and it stopped flashing, but stayed on the edge (i.e. if I sped up the light started flashing again).  Made it over the top, and it cooled down fast.  For the rest of the trip, I popped it in 3rd and kept the revs under 3000 up hills and that kept it from overheating.  I had the coolant flushed before I left, so I'm having the thermostat checked.  Are your 5 bangers prone to overheat?

Second was lousy gas milage.  Maybe an average of 14 mpg if I'm lucky.  12.8 coming out of L.A. and up the grapevine.  Around 16 mpg on the I5 and I14…fairly level.  12-3 mpg driving around and then up towards Yosemite, a little over 20 mpg coming down out of Yosemite, then back down to 13 or so after going up over the grapevine (slowly) and into Los Angeles.  Seems really low, but it's a little engine, and going up the hills….  I also wonder is there is some other issue if we combine it with the overheating.  I'd be interested in what kind of milage other eurovans get.

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Inline 5cyl Petrol engine tech / Re: New EVC - what to service
« on: June 12, 2015, 11:44:48 am »
Thanks again David - why carry a belt that can bypass the AC cooler?  Is it easier to install on the road? 

I'm considering the ATF cooler from GoWesty.  The tranny already has 140,000 on it….don't know it it would make a difference at this point.  i.e. it's either working or it's already damaged.  GoWesty suggests that if the tranny lasts over 100,000 it's a good one.  On the other hand, I have seen several EVC's when I was looking for sale that had them replaced at 130K or 140K.  That said, the service people said the tranny fluid looked pretty good.  Red with a few small brown specks in it.  Anyway, no time before this trip!  Leaving in 6 days.

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Inline 5cyl Petrol engine tech / Re: New EVC - what to service
« on: June 12, 2015, 11:36:31 am »
Just an update for those following the thread.

The van is in the shop (Performance Plus in Canoga Park…really good people) and they took a look a the timing belt. It was cracked and old.  Around $750 to replace (along with water pump and a bunch of other bits and pieces) which seems fair.  Since I'm leaving for Gold Country (Jamestown, CA) and Yosemite in 6 days I don't have much choice anyway.  Also changing ATF, oil, coolant flush, power steering service, adjusting brakes.  They found a coolant leak at a top flange needs fixing ($200).  The oil pan has a minuscule leak, they said wait on it.  A few more small things as well.  A number of dry cracking rubber boots and misc., but the parts are fine, so there's no need to replace them now. 

All in all they said it was a really well kept up car for it's age (which I knew from the service reports).

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